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Beryl McMullen
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« on: September 29, 2009, 07:42:54 PM »

What makes me think about Brum and England What a happy childhood I had till the war came and that changed all our lives Mine to be evacuated Not all evacuees were welcomed with open arms - the government forced people who had the room to take us in Then those years following the war how everything was so depressed.  Dad home from the service -my parents decided to emigrate to Canada as a family. . .

Yet, when I recall England that blessed green countryside. Is there anywhere quite so lovely? Country lanes to wander down just to take air. Coastal seaside places looking out to sea, waves breaking white horses. Mingled with strength of shade and light so warm with life blended colours glow. In the summer season blossoms fruits and flowers, in the meadows the purling stream These spectacular images will stay with me till the day I die!
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 09:33:08 PM »


Beryl

Wonderful memories (tinged with sadness I am sure).

I still live in England -  Birmingham - and I guess I take a lot of things for granted.

The wonderful countryside, Englands historial past.

Hence me wanting to find out about Birminghams history.

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 04:09:26 AM »

Hello Ladies.

Like Fay, I take Birmingham for granted, although I live in Tamworth, I work in Birmingham 5 days a week.
Part of my job takes me back to Nechells, I've even worked in the house we moved into in 1963.
Although I'm not manually doing the work anymore I still inspect and advise, I had to look at the Boiler fitted there in about 1978, still behind it was the originally big flowered wall paper we put up in 1964.
I took home a sample..all my family but my kid brother remembered it.

But...and there is always a but..Beryl, the Birmingham you remember is mostly gone...this isn't a racist statement, but travel from the top of the Soho Road right across Birmingham and as far as the top of Ward End, it's now just a sea of foreign faces.

I often wonder how we can sustain this, especially as when I drive through those streets they are awash with mostly unemployed people, few contributing, most living a life on benefits and yet, we let more in every day..
Like I said, please dont think this racist, if it's not true...show me otherwise..

The streets you played on Beryl are now far too dangerous for you to do once the sun goes down, drugs are rife, gun crime is rising, yet raise your head to complain and you too, become a target for their feral hatred or a focus point for their anger.

Birmingham is gone Beryl, yes, you can still see some evidence of it's old and fading past, but I dread to think what it will be like in 20 years time, it will be a skyline dominated by buildings we are not welcome or wanted in.

I can still drive past Bloomsbury St library, but if I enter, half of the library is turned over to books in a foreign tongue..
England has always been a melting pot for other people and in many cases, it was a good thing, now we are dominated by a 100 different tongues and faces,
We print official leaflets in 14 languages, forgetting that for them to truly integrate, we only need to do it in one.
How can those people ever truly belong if all they do from morning until night is hear the language of their own land?

Industry has been destroyed, broken on the wheel of Thatcherism or 'New Labour' and it's desire to bury the land once known as England.

I listen to Gordon Brown saying if they win power again the coming election how they intend to 'Fix things', forgetting it is they that broke it in the first place, I hear them brag about education, education, education and see people come to me for work experience and find they are semi-illiterate.
I watch Politicians, our flag bearers of morality, always first in the queue to rob us, always first off the blocks in the race to lie.
Our borders erode away, illegal immigrants unknown and unchecked flood into our country and the Government seek to impose Identity cards upon those who were born here and would do you no harm.
I see Brown standing in Conference telling jokes and praising his inept brothers in arms..
He speaks of Jacqui Smith, our last home secretary as being 'Brilliant' while she herself admitted she wasn't up to the job.
I see evidence of fiscal mismanagement  and financial deceit and I hear Politicians blame Bankers for our downfall while it is them that brought our country to its knees.
And Gordon Brown tells jokes...

Tell me then the one about top up fees that they promised never to introduce,
Make me laugh with the joke about a promised referendum vote.
Make my sides split with the hilarious 'we are doing all we can to fund our soldiers'.
Make me howl with stories of 18,000 pound bookcases charged to expenses,
Let me fall about listening to claims for Duck ponds and how they switch homes to maximise profits.

Honour and integrity in gone over here Beryl,
true flag bearers like Graham and John are shouted down by liars and bigots, not because they are wrong, but because they scream out a truth most do not want to hear.

SS Great Britiain is sinking, sinking beneath the weight of crooked Politicians, European red tape, uncontrolled immigration, greed from our so called betters and ruined by scum whose only idea of a days work is to burgle your house or demand money from the end of a knife..

You keep your dreams and warm memories Beryl..
You lived in the best of all possible days..
And we will never see their like again.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 07:43:17 AM »


Way back in 1988 I went back to Brum for a visit, had been warned
about changes but did,nt realise how many and what sort.

First mistake was going to 5 Cross Roads from Perry Barr, not a single
"English" shop, all had to me ,strange writing on the windows..the Cinema
was showing a Bollywood,  but what hit me was my face was the only
White one in the street................
 Loud music(noise) played from huge cars,driven by "Gangsters laden
with gold necklaces..............
While I was there a woman was walking along Corporation St, suddenly
this black chap grabbed her necklace.....A man was cleaning the windows
of the Gents tailors, up a short ladder, he jumped down and took off after
the thief, who  STOPPED- TURNED ROUND AND STABBED  the Window
Cleaner in the stomach............This was on the news later in the evening.

No thank you I would,nt give a second thought to going back, England
is NOT the place  I remember

Kandor you hit the nail on the head, thanks
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 08:00:49 AM »

Hi Kandor
            I subscribe to more or less every word of your post.The British people have over the years been betrayed by politicians.This "Brum"this UK are not the places millions of British people made huge sacrifices for in two world wars.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 08:11:10 AM »



   Enoch Powell got things right...Why was,nt he listened to eh?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 09:36:57 AM »

...Yet, when I recall England that blessed green countryside. Is there anywhere quite so lovely? Country lanes to wander down just to take air. Coastal seaside places looking out to sea, waves breaking white horses. Mingled with strength of shade and light so warm with life blended colours glow. In the summer season blossoms fruits and flowers, in the meadows the purling stream These spectacular images will stay with me till the day I die!
Sorry Beryl but I don't remember any of that in the Birmingham I grew up in.

Les, after posting that, you're responsible if I now go and slash my wrists.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 11:47:30 AM »

Have to agree with everything Kandor wrote,couldn't have put it better myself...nor even as good. Roll Eyes
I am nostalgic for what Brum was...but,do not like what it has become.
Two months after Enoch Powell made his "rivers of blood" speech,I left Brum for the last time.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 12:37:05 PM »

Sad but true!!  I too am a lover of my old Aston. Which is why I decided to go back and take a photograph of the place I used to live. Because I have old pictures of then!! I wanted pictures of now. to see and show my children how much  the place has changed. While doing this a car pulls up alongside me full of undesirables, asking me what was I doing there. I had to make a hasty retreat. Because it was getting nasty. Sad but True.!!
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 01:29:59 PM »

Britain isn't all bad though. My son moved to Luxembourg 15 years ago, and when we started to visit him, I did adopt a negative opinion of Britain. Europe was cleaner, wealthier. The health service seemed better, (no waiting for an hour to see Dr like I had to this morning) No largar louts, although alcohol is present and very cheap. Also the weather is far better!!!!!!!.
But I now can't wait to come back to Britain when I am away. Theres nothing like Britain in the spring. (Summers are rubbish) Autumn is beautiful. The colours take some beating. Even winter has its blessings. Our wildlife is something to behold. I see squirells, rabbits, foxes hedgehogs and birds, well they are wonderful. I would think that most of you have a better garden than I do as we are unable to do more than keep it tidy. But the beauty of flowers and fields is all around. Birmingham is still a city I am proud to have been born in, and may be it is all dirty and worn out now in parts. But think of the parks we have in Brum, and outside of the cities the countryside is out of this world. We just have to open our eyes and see what wonders there are out there. There's too much negativity out there. Politicians aren't going to help us. We have to help ourselves and enjoy life to the full with things that cost us nothing, and are created for us freely.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 01:32:52 PM »

Unfortunately Les, what you describe could just as easily apply to the USA. The same changes, the same problems, the same politicians. I guess they call it progress and we are the ones who cling to the "good old days" and how things used to be. I'd prefer the good old days if it meant that every time I made a call to a company I wouldn't hear "For English press 1, para Espanol marque dos. Sighs......

As you know, I visited Brum in November and as an outsider my view of it was probably very different than what you all feel. That comes from the fact that I have no past experience to compare it to. I found the people friendly and the city enchanting. BUt then I don't live there and only saw a small portion of it. I did, however, see the area to which you refer Les and to be honest I would be very reluctant to wander about in that area as I wouldn't feel safe. The one thing I will say is that I didn't care for the hustle and bustle of the city. I am just a country girl at heart. I don't particularly care for the cities here either. I never go to NYC if I can avoid it and my recent trips to Philadelphia for the doctor and hospital have been stressful.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 04:28:11 PM »

HERE'S a website dedicated to proving Birmingham is not as terrible as it's painted... well worth a browse.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 04:39:07 PM »

Oh Les, how I agree with your well written and heartfelt post, I could weep when I remember how things were when I was growing up, I was born just before the war and everyone was so patriotic then, what I have never understood is why we needed to be culturally diverse, we had everything we needed in our own people to rebuild the country after six years of war, instead politicans of all colours have let us down big time.   I hardly ever go into the city centre now, it feels so alien, I just pass through to catch a train, or go to the theatre, or the Museum & Art Gallery etc.

I agree with other posters once we get into the countryside it is a different world, and as our MPs can afford to live in the countryside or more expensive areas of cities - at what we now know - our expense they can't relate or won't relate to what the ordinary working people have been saying for years.
I will get off my soapbox now.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 10:36:40 AM »

Well said Les, as they say the truth some times hurts, Silver surfer, thats a word I have'nt heard or even seen for many years, "patriotic", ( try putting the English flag outside your house,?) you may offend some one..
 Ok, people remember the "Good old days", I too, remember them, cold houses, no warm dinners, army coats for blankets, tinbaths infront of the fire on a friday night, to go to the toilet you had to walk across a cold wet/snowy yard, taking the bedsheets to the pornshop every monday so we could eat, then getting them out for the week end, and then back again on monday, getting coal from the coalyard in a little trolly or old pram, yes.. the good old days,
I try to tell my kids how life was back then.. and I get looks from them as if to say papa, youre telling porky pies again..
when I went back to England, I was a stranger in my own land...and it made me sad, very sad, J2
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 10:42:14 AM »

John ..........Ya made me smile .............Taking sheets to the pornshop..........you mean Pawnshop  Cheesy
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